The libertarian movement's top political blogger, Pamela Geller had some choice words for Ron Paul today, responding to his slams on Sarah Palin at Politico.com.
From Pamela Geller, Publisher, Atlas Shrugs, July 20:
BUSTED: Country Clubber Ron Paul Smears Sarah Palin, exposes his own hypocrisy
So the Stan Laurel look-alike Ron Paul is attacking Sarah and her supporters for being "country clubbers." An absolutely absurd comment. I am sure all those Joe Sixpacks are waiting for their golf carts as we speak.
Well, I've done some searching around, and there is zero evidence to indicate that Sarah has ever been a member of a country club. Is there a more down to earth, true grit haimish candidate out there, I ask you? My vlog on Sarah is here.
Ron Paul and his wife Carol are Lifetime Members of the Lake Jackson Country Club. It is located on Highway 332 in between Lake Jackson and Brazoria.
Nothing new here. Ron Paul is a full of shitnik glomming onto Sarah's star just to get a little (any) publicity. Her platform of small government, less taxation, individual liberties, energy, national security and good old fashioned American exceptionalism is the cure this sick country needs.
Ron Paul is a never has been. Next!
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Heh. Right beside the photo of Pam you have the word "BUSTED", and I'm thinking... well, you ain't blind, anyway.
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It's a truly wonderful thing that the Libertarian Movement's Top Libertarian activist is not only stunningly beautiful, but as you imply also - ahem - "somewhat busty."
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She very much looks like andf embodies the image of the country clubber Paul was referring to.
BTW: Paul used the word "establishment" also, those Republicans that talk the good game of small govt, but then support TARP 1 and big govt. Typical hypocrisy.
Pamela, with such a philosophy you are indeed believing in American exceptionalism: exceptional debt and deficits! And oh...you're done.
BTW: Eric, its probably silicon-enhanced...
Don't worry, Paul has noew even more stunningly beautiful female supporters.
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Geez Eric, you are Pamela are both in your forties like me, but need spectacles or comprehension test already! The word "slamming: was used by the writer Daniel, NOT by Paul.
Apart from seeing a psychiatrist, maybe you should also make an appointment with the "eye doctor" (I use this term so that you understand) ASAP, or otherwise with your freading comprehension schoolteacher. You can choose which one.
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BTW: she is just amother blogger, not a publisher!
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Your petty jealousy of Ron Paul is only equal to your ridiculous obsession with non-libertarian Palin.
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It is funny how bad you and others are missing the point. Ron Paul was not referring to Palin being in a country club, but rather she attracts these type of Republicans. Ron Paul being a member of a country club has nothing to do with what he said.
Palin is just another hack child for the RNC. They will have her go around and stump for big government Republicans, and we will see the same thing from the party in decline.
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It's funny how you Sir, are badly missing the point.
This whole ruckus is about hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of a Lifetime member of a Country Club, calling another individual who has never joined a Country Club, and hardly has any Country Clubs whatsoever in her entire State, (There's only one), a "Country Clubber."
It's utterly laughable. The audacity of Paul to level that charge against Palin.
I wonder if Palin has ever been golfing?
And Paul?
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Hey Khan, why you blaming me?
This story is all over the Blogosphere. It started at Politico. It's hit US News, HotAir, Gateway Pundit and a whole shitload of sites. You're singling me out for criticism for covering it, calling me "obsessive"?
How about the reporter for Politico.com who started the ball rolling? Why not call him "obsessive"?
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I have sen nothing that would make me vote for Palin over Ron Paul under ANY circumstance.
What libertarian values (small L) has she espoused. Bullshit soundbites do not count. And the kool-aid must be quite tasty if any of you believe she and McCain would have vetoed the bailout bill.
They would have done the bidding of their wall street masters just as Obama did.
There are very few even somewhat independent thinkers in the two parties and folks she ain't one of them. She spat talking points like she had just gone a few months at the ministry of education.
Who controls the past...
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"She very much looks like andf embodies the image of the country clubber Paul was referring to. "
She also looks like some single mom's, who dance around poles at night, to make ends meet. Either way, she is a fine looker and an asset to anti-leftism activism.
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Hey Charles, what libertarian principled does Ron Paul espouse?
I hear him talk nutty bullshit about the "evil Federal Reserve" that nobody cares a shit about.
Then I hear him espousing the most anti-libertarian, pro-fascist foreign policy of anyone in the entire US Congress.
Yeah, he's good on marijuana legalization dude. But that's about it.
What about seat belt laws? Prostitution legalization? Legalized Gambling?
And what about Taxes? Hell, Ron Paul doesn't even attend Tea Party protests.
He's a populist leftist, with a libertarian streak on marijuana. Good for him on marijuana legalization. But that stance is negated by his pro-totalitarian views on foreign policy.
If you like Castro, Chavez, and Achmadinajad, you're as good as a fascist yourself.
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First of all I will have no bashing of Stan Laurel here.
Eric, just know if you still support Willard that a lot of so-called conservatives who bash Sarah Palin are Romney-bots (and Paultards), so a heads-up before you jump into bed so to speak.
And yes, Stefan, I'm sure the Ron Paul army (which is really the Moore slacker uprising of the right) probably has a few attractive girls--I'd call them lost but that's another discussion.
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Eric if you do not understand the value of sound money backed by a commodity (which Ayn Rand vehemently supported) you in turn don't support property rights (keeping the value of one's earnings from being confiscated by inflation)
If there is no right to individual property then you have fascism. Like most you seem to misunderstand the definition.
And the tea parties are FULL of people who's MAIN issue is the FED. How do you think the housing bubble was inflated and by whom?
I'm surprised (honestly... not really) how little of libertarian thought you embrace.
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I use to be heavily involved in the John Birch Society years ago... met Ron Paul, Ezola Foster, and the like. After being out of the conspiratorial movement for many years and going back and reflecting on the conversations, recommended books and the reading them then and reading them now (applying real history to them) -- I am no Ron Paul fan. Deep down he believes that the Bilderberger's and Trilateral Commission are behind 9/11. I know this based on having had many conversations with those who are friends with him, supporters of him, and talking to him briefly and listening to a presentation by him for the John Birch Society. Mind you when I was looking at all this stuff he thought that the Murrah building was an inside CIA job, as did Pat Buchanan's VP choice, Ezola Foster. I have always disdained these folks (in a polite manner) ever since I wised up.
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A friend of a friend told me that you are a homosexual, Papa Giorgio
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William: With all due respect, Pamela looks like quite a rich lady, she definitely does not look like someone who has to work around the clock to make ends meeet, and she does a lot of blogging, where does she get the time for that if she is supposed to work and then look after her children? Bill Kristol is another example of an establishment country clubber.
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Papa Giorgio: Seems like you like guilt by association, a tactic the left wing likes to use. If Ron Paul would have really believe 911 was an "inside job", then he would never have logically made the argument for "blowback", a term that the CIA uses and he has some senior ex-CIA people advising him.
Better try next time, we are way smarter than that. And we all know Al Qaeda and - unrelated - Saddam Hussein have been on the CIA's payroll in the past and followed their own ways later.
Now I have - unlike you - never even attended a JBS meeting, but if you look at the recent video on youtube about just deceased Walter Cronkite speaking about one world government during an award ceremony by the World Federalist Association, together with a video appearance of one Saul Alinsky follower - Hillary Clinton, then the JBS's suspicions about one world government is perfectly justified. Oh, and Hillary Clinton also appeared last week speaking at the CFR and mentioned the foreign affairs department getting their policy issues from the CFR.
SO go look at those two videos and then tell us if you would still write exactly the same...
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Hey Charles, if you don't understand the value, OF ME OWNING MY MOTHER-FUCKING 1998 CHEVY PICK-UP TRUCK AND NOT THE GODDAMNED GOVERNMENT! And ME! having the right to drive that truck wherever the FUCK! I want to, without some shitty-ass cop pulling me over for not wearing my seat belt, THAN YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND A GODDAMNED THING ABOUT LIBERTY.
Fuck the Fed issue. If I hear one more goddamned thing about that silly ass issue I'm gonna fucking scream.
Talk to me about Seat Belt laws, WHICH DIRECTLY EFFECTS MY LIFE!
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Charles, if you're looking for a boogey-man to blame a worldwide conspiracy on, to take away our liberties here in the United States, try this one:
Osama bin Laden.
Or, if not bin Laden, Achmadinajad. Or, Hezbollah, Hamas, or any of the assorted Islamo-Fascists who are trying to take over this country, and institute Sharia Law.
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I can see the Eric heading already: Osama Bin Laden institutes seat belt laws in the US and is the secret ruler of the US by proxy because of the seat belt law he invented!
After all, Nader is not mainstream we heard from TRG, so he has no influence, while many know about OBL.
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Oh look what I found...Ron Paul at a Tax Day Tea Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNx5JakrH4s
You should really check your facts before spouting off your mouth Eric.
Also it is funny that you call Ron Paul's foreign policy pro-totalitarian being that he wants to bring the boys home, stop spending money to maintain our empire, and protect this country from the inside.
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Remember last year, Paul telling the paultards in Alaska to vote for corrupt Don Young over an actual Fiscal/Limited Government Conservative in that 50/50 primary?
That would be Sean Parnell, the future Governor now of AK
Paul helped defeat him and elect a Big Government, old-boy network(read "Country Club") Crook back to Congress in Don Young
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Ron Paul = Far-left liberal kook on Foreign Policy, parroting the Michael Moore's(liars) of the world mindlessly.
Hell, on Free Trade his a Utopian joke who isn't the least bit connected to reality either.
the latest 9/11 Troofer video with him is devistating, yet again and highlights how much of a dirtbag he truly is.
I wonder if these "libertarians" will ever learn that the only way Free Market Capitalism and Free Trade works, in the real world, is with a Muscular Foreign Policy and Defense.
Like it always has, even in the early days of George Washington and Thomas Jeffeson, both sending troops abroad to defend US Commerce Interest and defend US owned Private Property RIghts. Paul would let these Rights be stolen and his response would be to grab the ankles
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Jonathan:
1: I thought the "paultards" are neglible, only a few internet spammers and conspiracy theorists, so how on earth could what they vote have any influence on the outcome of the AK primary election??? Also, if they were such "paultards", why would you like to have their votes and be associated with them?? Geez...stop making yourself ridiculous, only if it is for your own sake, not our sake...
2: Paul did NOT endorse Young for congress, Young wanted Paul to endorse him, and Paul only issued a statement noting common issues they
agree, like getting rid of the IRS.
3: Mike Huckabee endorsed Young (Young also endorsed Huckabee, both fair tax and big govt. guys) and I think also Romney and others, so why don't you make them responsible for Young's win over Parnell???
4: If you were Parnell, would't you prefer to be governor of AK, rather than the lone congressman??? And we
know Parnell wanted to be gov. as first choice, rather than congressman.
5: Should I continue? Argument won already.
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LOL Jonathan: what private property rights does the US have in Iraq, apart from the embassy (that was never threatened to be taken over)? None! Same can be said of every other country the US has military bases in.
Do you think Venezuele, Iraq, Iran etc. would not want to sell their oil to Americans, with the reality that the US buys 25% of the world's oil?
It is clear that the one that needs a reality check is you, and those that "think" the same.
Robert Taft, George Will, Pat Buchanan, Doug Bandow, Russel Kirk etc. etc has the same foreign policy views as Paul. Why don't you accuse them also of following Michael Moore. Jeff Flake is also for free trade with Cuba and against the isolation, to name just one other in congress. And he has been to Cuba also.
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Paultards
Why do I suspect Sarah Palin wouldn't approve of that particular epithet...
Fuck the Fed issue. If I hear one more goddamned thing about that silly ass issue I'm gonna fucking scream.
The Fed is the source of all of our woes. In the first place, it is the primary culprit in this economic crisis. (The Capitol Hill Clowns are now free to cancel their new Pecora commission, in which they will leave no government ass uncovered, and which will leave us with less economic liberty than before, if the U.S. even survives the 23.7 Trillion in Banksta Bailouts).
Second, without it, financing our domestic and foreign misadventures would be much more difficult. Inflation is also taxation without representation.
The Fed is decidedly unlibertarian, unconservative and un-American.
Scream yourself why so few Democrats are willing to sign onto HR1207 and S604, and why Il Duce wants to give it even more power and less transparency.
End the Fed, and all your wildest small government dreams will come true.
Ron Paul Opening Statement Fed Hearing 07/21/2009
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I wonder if these "libertarians" will ever learn that the only way Free Market Capitalism and Free Trade works, in the real world, is with a Muscular Foreign Policy and Defense.
There's a difference between a strong national defense (which we do not have; see 9/11) and a weak national offense. The latter is what we've been engaging in for far too long, thanks to the liberal interventionism being promoted from both sides of the aisle. Our policing the world and "spreading democracy" has helped to render us a bankrupt paper tiger (which, incidentally, is one of bin Laden's goals, and also serves as a terrific recruiting tool for the Islamicist nutballs).
I'm not sure what the neocon's and the defcon's problem is with Obama. He's expanded the WoT, kept in place the bulk of the (liberal) Bush Admin. policies, and Congressional Democrats even funded a "permanent standing nation-building office" recently.
Meet the new boss...
And you know, who could really blame China if they wanted to build military bases in the U.S., "to protect their interests." Certainly not you guys.
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One has to seriously doubt Eric's contribution to Paul during his time as aid and even more so his ability to understand the most central economic issue Paul has been dealing with since his start in the political life, and then Eric says he is in 100% agreement with Paul on economic and domestic issues!
What is more is that any 2 bit GOP campaign strategist (with zero understanding of libertarianism) would be able to tell you "audit the Fed" would be THE winning theme for the GOP in 2010 and 2012 amidst their current crisis. All GOP congressmen co-sponsors HR 1207 so far, the majority of the public and so far 95 of the house Democrats, while Obama and Co is for expansion of Fed powers. The support among the Democrats for the Fed audit is from ALL caucuses, the blue dog Democrats, members of the progressive caucus etc, and also all third parties not represented in parliamentary politics (see Paul's 4 point unifyer of Nader, the Greens, the CP and LP of last year). The vote with cap and trade was mostly along partisan lines. To have the maximum effect, you have to get an issue where a significant amount of Independents and (soft) Democrats can agree with and you have this with audit the Fed, like is NO other bill as possible. Moreover, this issue can also cause division within the governing Democratic coalition! What more can any, also highly partisan Republican ask for????
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"Paultards" is of course a term used by "Wonkette" tabloid types ... interesting to notice the company Jonathan keeps...Wonkette is very much a statist liberal spoof gossip satirical site. The term also uses typical leftist personal attacks, when there is no content to attack or arguments to be won, it is gutter politics in its worst kind. Jonathan, it is also against Reagan's 11th commandment!
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What I wouldn't give for you Paultards to spend as much of your time working to overturn Seat Belt laws in the 50 States, as you do on this silly-ass "Fed issue."
My gosh. It's almost like you all are worried about some "Federal Reserve cop" stopping you on the way home from work, asking to see if you've got any gold stashed in your car.
Hint: You've got 1 million more times a chance of some local yocal cop harrassing you for not wearing your seat belt, than you do from some Fed Reserve cop.
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Ask yourself this question?
What has more of a day-to-day impact on your daily life:
Seat belt laws, or the "evil" Federal Reserve?
Try driving around your town without your seat belt on, and see how long it takes for some cop to pull you over and ruin your day with a $300.00 ticket and a court summons.
Just what you need after a hard day's work, wife yelling at you, kids screaming, and the dog shitting on the neighbor's lawn. Just one more hassle in your busy day, out trying to make a buck.
When was the last time somebody from the "evil" Federal Reserve harrassed you?
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Seat belt laws, or the "evil" Federal Reserve?
The Fed is far more evil.
When was the last time somebody from the "evil" Federal Reserve harassed you?
The Federal Reserve has been harassing the American people since 1913, by robbing them of their wealth.
"It's really no different than a burglar in your house wanting to steal your money."
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Alexei Sokolov // stefan //
I was just proven right today... and a long time ago:
Ron on Bilderbergers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plo-1rLZ3Jo
Ron on New World Order:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8DpKKSmaa8
New Ron quote, IMF, Federal Reserve, 9/11 Truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88x6JdfjwCY
Michelle Malkin (near the end of the video) makes my point for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_qUvgfzuPM
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""Paultards" is of course a term used by "Wonkette" tabloid types ... "
Hey Steffy don't blame me, I like Paullocks personally but it never caught on...............
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Papa Georgio:
LOL you make it too easy to debunk your claims, I like some competition!
So you have only seen those videos today, and only proven "right" at the time you saw them, to use your words? If you are logical in your argumentation, then you would say I was already proven "right: in 2007.
Wow you are late in seeing Malkin's comments! Those of us who are informed and saw them in 2007 already, know that she herself has acknowledged on TV she jumped to un unfair conclusion. The only"evidence" she has in Paul only for a few seconds saying he does not automatically trust everything the govt. investogaiion says and that was it. He did NOT say he agree with the 911 inside job people at all.
You claim to have an interest in philosophy, but cannot even argue consistently and logically??
You have to differentiate between "The World Order" and "a new world order". Paul is against the first one and the implementation of his policies would mean the second one, in any case with regard to US foreign policy and the monetary issue, backing of the USD. Bush, Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama all used the term "THE new world order" to be striven for and their actions are consistent with this.
As to Paul listened to a loaded question about "the truth about 911"..as a classical liberal he thiks you should listen to all, but that does not mean you agree with all. Note she did not say ANYTHING about 911 being an "inside job" at all. The truth about 911 can mean different things, to Paul it means answering some of the unanswered questions, like the govt. ineptness in avoiding planes going off course and flying into the WTC towers, after numerous intelligence warnings months earlier and emphathis on some aspects of the 911 commission report, which has still not been implemented...it has to do with the blowback, you know. Giuliani has apparently also not read the commission report and in this sense Paul represents the findings much better than Giuliani or Romney or Obama or Clinton.
Take a listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS6bLQixkM&
and come back an tell us what you think of it, compared to what Ron Paul and also the JBS for that matter have been saying and suspecting.
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Why even bother with these perpetual war, nation-building tools, stefan. That's what it's all about anyway. That's why they hate him.
No matter how much proof you put forth, they'll still see what they want to see. Hell, they won't even acknowledge the existence of blowback! "They hate us for our freedoms." Don't make me laugh. That's almost as good as "Too Big To Fail" or "I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market."
For as long as Paul lives, they'll parse every word and glom onto any possible slight (even if its made by some asshole at politico) to try and discredit Paul simply because he has the unmitigated gall to oppose their idiotic, liberal foreign interventionism. (Group think much, guys?)
They'll still defend their RINO Bush even though he was a disaster in every way, they'll still push for preemptive nation-building wars and complain about Obama, even while he picks up where Bush left off, and they'll never admit how stupid it was to "spread democracy" in Iraq for six frickin' years, which in the end cost us our own liberty.
Thanks for Obamanation, guys. I'm glad Iraq was worth it to you. Maybe someday, the Iraqis will "spread freedom" over here since you know, because of you fools, we're losing ours at a breakneck pace.
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Good ol Donderoo trying to attack Ron Paul just because he got caught looking at porn while working for him and got fired. We can all see right through you Donderoo.
Seems to me, people like you are the ones who got Obama elected. The two candidates who had the most online presence were Obama and Ron Paul. The only one who was pulling in support from both sides was Ron Paul. And with the economy being the #1 issue of the run up to the elections Ron Paul would have been THE man to school Obama during the debates (and he would have actually had equal time during the debates, not the 30 seconds given during the GOP debates).
So now...you have a socialist who is destroying our country while also ending the war in Iraq...
I hope you're proud of yourself.
And now you get to support Palin to lose against Obama in 2012!
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Actually Annie Eric supports Willard Goodhair to be the designated Nobama fodder in 2012.
But don't let me interrupt your RuPaul fantasy.
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Stefan, I heard and saw with my own eyes and ears his telling me (one of many at a JBS meeting) that the CIA planted bombs in the Murrah Building.
Also, Stefan, I have had most of those videos (except for the NEW ONE I flagged as NEW) and other topics on my site, I will give you the dates since you seem to say that i only found them today:
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Gulf of Tonkin 7-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-paul-is-nut.html
Federal Building 7-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-paul-is-nut.html
9/11 7-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/06/ron-paul-and-911-truthers_19.html
Ron Paul and Marxist and Alex Jones Connections 8-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/08/ron-pauls-marxist-and-911-truther-ties.html
Ron Paul and His Anti-Conservative 8-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/09/just-say-no-to-ron-paul.html
Ron Paul and the NWO 9-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/09/nuts-to-left-of-me-clowns-to-right.html
Ron Paul Crazies Update 11-07:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-paul-update.html
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I watched the video you linked. I have nothing to say about it... I know that the Left wants a world government because they are Democratic Socialists, Fabian Socialist, etc, and have even labeled themselves "enlightened Nazis:"
The introduction of a novel term like "liberal fascism" obviously requires an explanation. Many critics will undoubtedly regard it as a crass oxymoron. Actually, however, I am not the first to use the term. That honor falls to H. G. Wells, one of the greatest influences on the progressive mind in the twentieth century (and, it turns out, the inspiration for Huxley's Brave New World). Nor did Wells coin the phrase as an indictment, but as a badge of honor. Progressives must become "liberal fascists" and "enlightened Nazis," he told the Young Liberals at Oxford in a speech in July 1932. Wells was a leading voice in what I have called the fascist moment, when many Western elites were eager to replace Church and Crown with slide rules and industrial armies.
(Liberal Fascism, 21; more on this can be found in a post entitled, "Mussolini Defines Fascism: Does the Left = Communism? And The Right = Fascism?")
from my blog on Margaret Sanger: http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2009/06/margaret-sanger-and-racist-history-of.html
I have read 120 or so books (I have over 3,500 in my condo) on the NWO, so don't lecture me. There is a difference between knowing that a worldview exists that is statist, or the crap that Ron Paul peddles (that I heard him peddle) about the US Government being involved in Illuminate conspiracies.
Subject/Object distinction Stefan.
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Also, take note that I did not do a tribute or eulogy to Cronkite... I am a amateur Vietnam War historian, and the involvement of Cronkite's almost day-by-day rewriting of history angered me.
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By the way, I isolated this video from a site that tells you to type in "New World Order" in Google. You will find a plethora of NUT JOBS that way:
http://www.motionbox.com/videos/7a9adab5181fe0c4f5
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Yahoo: